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Old 06-13-15, 12:53 AM   #1
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Default environmentalists don't like solar?

L.A. Ends Participation in Massive Solar project

"L.A. Ends Participation in Massive Solar project—to Save 100 Bighorn Sheep"


It's funny.. In a sad way..

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Old 06-13-15, 02:38 AM   #2
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They're clearly not real environmentalists. Real environmentalists even have a name for the fake ones - "greenwashers".
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..."L.A. Ends Participation in Massive Solar project—to Save 100 Bighorn Sheep"...
I don't think that this is either funny or sad.

I see this as a 'canary in the coal mine' kind of reminder of how huge is the burden that civilization places on the planet.

As skewed as the Breitbart inc. mindset is, like a bored school boy, they have mindlessly picked at a scab that opened a wound of unimaginable consequences...

The haunting fact is that civilization is not sustainable.

Here is a simplistic calculator that can give a clue to the situation.

Take the test honestly and look at your results.

Then try 'gaming' the test to see what it would take to live within one planet.

It's an eye opener.

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I challenge solar supporters everywhere to put their money into a personal investment. Buy a micro array and a micro inverter and install the system. Don't wait for the government to provide it, the systems are not all that expensive.

Besides the obvious, the visual presence of the system is easily identified by observers, much like flying a flag. The real future is decided today and tomorrow: perception becomes reality, the future is realized by changing the perception.
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Now the weather is getting better, I see people walking by and peeking between
our house and garage, at the little arrays in the backyard..
(My PV is not connected to the grid).

I think people seeing my PV generates a little interest.
But, up near the end of our street is a great new install.
It's a two story home, with the roof loaded with PV.. Nice looking installation.

I think it would be very difficult to DIY a legal GTI system in my town.
The nanny state doesn't encourage DIYers.
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Default Xringer: Your No-Nanny State Dreamland...

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The nanny state doesn't encourage DIYers...
I agree with you about the meddlesome "nanny state".

People in the United States should not have to whine about the "nanny state".

The nanny state should not be involved in:
  • water services
  • sewage services
  • electrical services
  • street building and upkeep
  • libraries
  • street lighting
  • mail delivery
  • police
  • public education
  • universities
  • science and research of any kind
  • any intrusion into commerce, at any level
  • space research
  • energy research
  • military
  • construction
  • zoning
  • military research
  • foreign relations
  • the justice system
  • any issues at all relating to energy
  • any issues at all relating to food
  • any issues at all relating to public health
  • any issues at all relating to public safety
  • any issues at all relating to communication

There is in fact a place where no one whines about "nanny state" because all of the above issues are completely ignored by the government, and life goes on as you would hope.

It is in one of the most beautiful cities in the world, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Below is a photograph of this paradise state you seek.



It is without a doubt, the most dangerous place to live in the world.

But no one there whines about the "nanny state".

You should go there and check it out. Find out for yourself what complete freedom for the individual is all about.

I did go there. I saw it.

While I did not take this exact photo, it is a true and accurate photographic depiction of what I saw with my own eyes.

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This picture reminds me of a Dr Seuss book city... In reality, 3/4 of the world's poulation lives like this or worse. I can't seem to find a single solar panel on a roof in the picture. I guess making wally world products doesn't pay too well anymore. Not having a public government really does suck.

While I do not always agree with the current political agendas or the politicians who steer them, you will never hear me complain about taxes or the projection of our military power. While the American system of government is far from perfect, it is indeed what most of the rest of the world envies. I am extremely grateful to live in the society our leaders have labored and struggled to provide me.

That said, I believe I would take a "dont ask, don't tell" position on the solar panel issue. Kind of like driving to Indiana to buy fireworks for independence day. How often do you think your county inspector drives around town, looking for bootleg solar panels on homes? My guess is less than never.
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...While the American system of government is far from perfect, it is indeed what most of the rest of the world envies. I am extremely grateful to live in the society our leaders have labored and struggled to provide me...
If you were someone who was born into wealth, I would completely understand why you would say what you have said, because that is exactly what they say.

For someone of modest means, I think you might not realize the degree to which the deck is stacked against you.

Our leaders struggled for a system of equal justice for all... Do we have that? Ask any African American, they can explain it to you.

Our leaders also struggled for a system of economic equality. In fact some of our founding states had the word "Commonwealth" in their name... do we have that? The chart below would suggest that we do not have wealth equality. In fact, we have never been farther away from wealth equality than we are right now.


Our leaders struggled to make sure we would not become entangled in foreign wars. Need I say more about that?

If you want to measure us against Afghanistan, then we are doing really great, especially since we destroyed so much of their country.

But if you measure us against the Scandinavian countries, then you will see that they have attained what "our leaders have labored and struggled to provide".

They have a better Judicial system


They have a less corrupt government


They have a far more fair distribution of income,


They actually have "freedom of the press"


They are more successful in their pursuit of happiness


They Live Longer than we do


We have fallen way behind in Infant Mortality


In order to make the United States "The Best", it is necessary to recognize that it is not already the best.

I was talking to a friend a few years back... she had just returned from a cruise of the "Inside Passage" that goes from Prince Rupert to Alaska. She was amazed to find so many Europeans on the ship.

She asked on why this was, and the reply was that it was very affordable because, "The United States is the new Mexico."

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I agree with you that the nwo is selling us out for the top 1%.
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Default We got lucky

At least the USA got past the last 10 years without being burned to death..

Advanced Climate Station Data Shows U.S. In A Cooling Trend | The Daily Caller





We had good luck.. Except for NYC, which be underwater in a few days..

FLASHBACK: ABC's



Not a real picture, this is a computer simulation.
The flooding won't occur until after 6/17/2015.. Or maybe a bit later..

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