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Old 03-26-12, 11:25 AM   #11
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Another concern is the recent sightings of owls that normally reside in Alaska showing up in the states. Don't birds and animals in general have a better sense of fleeing danger? Before big earthquakes, etc. Why are they coming south?

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Old 03-27-12, 07:09 PM   #12
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I said that with a smile on my face, but it has been on my mind. With the threat of nuclear bomb makings and enemies of the US.......... it gets me thinking.

So how can you grow veggies in the bunker?
Hmm. They need lots of light, which means lots of electricity. Could you build the bunker adjacent a geothermal power source? You could build a wind, solar, or hydro power source above the bunker, but what if it needs servicing? One appealing solution is nuclear.

I think the best place to be in the wake of a civilization-ending disaster is on an aircraft carrier. Get below deck until the fallout cools down, then convert the four acre flight deck into a farm. You've got a nuclear reactor onboard, which goes for 25 years without refueling. There's room for hundreds of people, plus livestock or hydroponics below deck. That's a good size for a community to remain cohesive and at least a little productive.

We had birds laying eggs here in February. Perhaps the owls detected a suitable climate farther south than usual.
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Old 03-27-12, 08:20 PM   #13
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I know very little about nuclear and the effects of a nuclear disaster. Many living things have been destroyed by the fallout and finding a way to keep from becoming one of them hasn't been at the top of my list. Should it be? I don't know.

I remember when I was a kid and taking a tour of the newest nuclear power plant south of Longview/Kelso, WA. From what I remember they showed in the tour was that it is an extremely safe way to produce electricity. Funny thing is, the plant was torn down a few years back.
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Old 03-28-12, 01:00 AM   #14
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...they showed in the tour was that it is an extremely safe way to produce electricity. Funny thing is, the plant was torn down a few years back.
The plant was built right on the Columbia, in the 100-year flood plain. Not only that, it was built down-river for Bonneville dam. The Allies pioneered the technique of destroying dams as a weapon. Not reason to think that nobody will ever think to do something like that again. Also, like most reactors, the waste was stored in open pools also in the 100-year flood plain. In addition to all that, the reactor is built on a earthquake-prone fault line very similar to the San Andreas fault.

It was not at all extremely safe... that was just P.R.

I had a neighbor whose father worked at the plant, and he related that there were frequent leaks and releases that, against rules and the law, were never reported.

I had the honor of having this guy, Lloyd Marbett on my show, last Sunday...


...he was very instrumental in having Trojan Nuclear plant (the one you mentioned) shut down and then torn down, although to this day he says he wanted the cooling tower to stay up as a monument to stupidity and short-sightedness.

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What does it all mean? From what I understand early annual wood growth is lighter and slower late summer/fall growth is darker. Is there any information on the effects with a detailed explanation of what is happening?
I am not sure about the effect of radiation, but wood is lighter early in the growing season because conditions are better, mostly abundant moisture, resulting in large cells. As the season progresses, the cells are smaller until trees go dormant in the fall. The process starts over the next spring, giving trees "rings", one for each growing season. If radiation slows growth or makes cells smaller, it could result in darker wood, but only due to cell size, not an actual change in the color of the wood.
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Hi, I have a question about those trees though...why were they cut down? someone planning to make radioactive furniture?are they safe to use as lumber?
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Record radiation found in fish near Fukushima plant – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

I wonder how long before it really hits us on the west coast? I haven't heard much lately...............?????????
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my understanding is they've basically stopped monitoring for anything. there are a few expected studies to be done on moose and salmon if I remember correctly but nothing major. Canada has massively cut the department of fisheries and oceans so I'm not sure who's left to actually do this research.
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my understanding is they've basically stopped monitoring for anything...
This radiation thing is really a problem. I went back and studied the 'official' reaction to the following nuclear disasters:...and in every case, the people who lived in the areas surrounding the disaster were not properly informed of the grave risk to which they were exposed. It only came out much later, when it was too late to do anything, that the people who were in control of the information, were in full possession of information regarding the dangers and knowingly withheld information that was vital to survival.

We have no reason to believe that officials will provide us with information we need to avoid sickness or injury.


The Japanese people recognized this early in the Fukushima disaster, and set up a citizens monitoring network (Link-1, Link-2) that has set the standard for non-governmental citizen response.

We need to do the same thing.

There is no known safe level of radiation.

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