Did you have a warm Nov & Dec 2011?

Xringer · 12-04-11, 10:52 PM

I heard ours (around Boston) was 5 deg F above normal..
Looking at the chart, I can see why. We had some good bicycle weather!

This was one weird November..

strider3700 · 12-05-11, 01:01 AM

Nope ours felt really cold but comparing numbers I found it was just a tidge warmer then last years cold November. I've had winters here where we wouldn't touch freezing but we've been as low as -4 already and my night time lows have regularly been in the -2 area. 10 day forecast coming up is high's of 2 or 3 low's of -2 or -3.

La nina is like this apparently. We had La Nina last year as well. At least the snow so far was only a couple of inches.

Daox · 12-05-11, 07:17 AM

Ours was very warm. It was quite nice and let me get a lot of stuff done that I didn't think I'd have time for.

NeilBlanchard · 12-05-11, 07:37 AM

Yes, XRinger and I are practically neighbors. The ground is not yet frozen, which is quite weird. Today and tomorrow are supposed to get up to about 60F, so the ground will stay unfrozen for at least another week, probably; and maybe longer if it stays this warm during the day.

Motorcycles are still out an about, in numbers. Joggers are still in shorts and tee shirts. I have had a couple of frosty windshields so far, but it is already melting when I go to work, and a quick spray with the cleaner and wipers clear it off. I have not yet needed to wear gloves while driving, which is quite unusual, too.

Bicycling is quite possible -- my 81 year old father is still riding his e-bike and others are out pedaling, too. The upside of this weather is our furnace is only needed once in a while.

Xringer · 12-05-11, 08:09 AM

The weather folks are talking about how we are going to have another La Nina winter,
but with a bit less snow..?. I'll believe it, when I see it..

My guess is, Mother Nature is trying to lull us into misplacing our gloves,
before smacking us with 6 feet of hardpack..

Higgy · 12-05-11, 12:14 PM

We've been anywhere from 5-10C warmer then last year. Mostly 5ish. Even now, today has really been the first really cold day at -25C this morning going up to -13C.

Xringer · 12-05-11, 01:49 PM

History : Weather Underground

Yeah, it does look like a recent nose-dive, on the plot.
Our November plots seems to say the weather was warmer, over a very wide area..

Piwoslaw · 12-05-11, 01:55 PM

Here, November 2011 was the second coldest (885 heating degree days) since 2004, with 2007 being the coldest @ 930 HDDs and 2006 being the warmest with only 715 HDDs.
This surprised me (and everyone I shared this with), I could swear that it was quite warm. I think this may be because we hardly saw any temperatures below freezing (only a few mornings), plus no rain (or snow) for the last 2-3 months. Being able to ride my road bike well into December, while last year I'd been shovelling snow for two weeks by now, does make it hard to be objective...

Xringer · 12-05-11, 02:23 PM

Maybe on average it was colder. But, maybe your observations of being warmer,
had to do with the day time peaks that occurred.?.
It looks like about 70% of the days had the temp reach or exceed the average highs.

We kinda saw the same thing. If the forecast said there was going to be a peak at
noontime, we hopped on the bikes at 11:30 AM and rode 7 miles and have a nice lunch.
We would come back home around 14:00, when the peak was really working for us!

Didn't need no stinking jackets for lunch rides!!

hamsterpower · 12-05-11, 05:32 PM

Seemed warm to me, but I am also almost XRinger's neighbor.

12-04-11, 10:52 PM	#1
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	Did you have a warm Nov & Dec 2011? I heard ours (around Boston) was 5 deg F above normal.. Looking at the chart, I can see why. We had some good bicycle weather! This was one weird November.. Attached Thumbnails __________________ My hobby is installing & trying to repair mini-splits EPA 608 Type 1 Technician Certification ~ 5 lbs or less.. Last edited by Piwoslaw; 01-01-12 at 02:16 AM.. Reason: Changed thread title

12-05-11, 07:17 AM	#3
Daox Administrator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Germantown, WI Posts: 5,525 Thanks: 1,162 Thanked 374 Times in 305 Posts	Ours was very warm. It was quite nice and let me get a lot of stuff done that I didn't think I'd have time for. __________________ Current project - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-05-11, 08:09 AM	#5
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	The weather folks are talking about how we are going to have another La Nina winter, but with a bit less snow..?. I'll believe it, when I see it.. My guess is, Mother Nature is trying to lull us into misplacing our gloves, before smacking us with 6 feet of hardpack.. __________________ My hobby is installing & trying to repair mini-splits EPA 608 Type 1 Technician Certification ~ 5 lbs or less..

12-05-11, 01:49 PM	#7
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	History : Weather Underground Yeah, it does look like a recent nose-dive, on the plot. Our November plots seems to say the weather was warmer, over a very wide area.. __________________ My hobby is installing & trying to repair mini-splits EPA 608 Type 1 Technician Certification ~ 5 lbs or less..

12-05-11, 01:55 PM	#8
Piwoslaw Super Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 961 Thanks: 188 Thanked 110 Times in 86 Posts	Here, November 2011 was the second coldest (885 heating degree days) since 2004, with 2007 being the coldest @ 930 HDDs and 2006 being the warmest with only 715 HDDs. This surprised me (and everyone I shared this with), I could swear that it was quite warm. I think this may be because we hardly saw any temperatures below freezing (only a few mornings), plus no rain (or snow) for the last 2-3 months. Being able to ride my road bike well into December, while last year I'd been shovelling snow for two weeks by now, does make it hard to be objective... __________________ Ecorenovation - the bottomless piggy bank that tries to tame the energy hog.

12-05-11, 01:01 AM	#2
strider3700 Master EcoRenovator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver Island BC Posts: 745 Thanks: 23 Thanked 37 Times in 30 Posts	Nope ours felt really cold but comparing numbers I found it was just a tidge warmer then last years cold November. I've had winters here where we wouldn't touch freezing but we've been as low as -4 already and my night time lows have regularly been in the -2 area. 10 day forecast coming up is high's of 2 or 3 low's of -2 or -3. La nina is like this apparently. We had La Nina last year as well. At least the snow so far was only a couple of inches.

12-05-11, 07:37 AM	#4
NeilBlanchard Journeyman EcoRenovator Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth Posts: 383 Thanks: 78 Thanked 39 Times in 32 Posts	Yes, XRinger and I are practically neighbors. The ground is not yet frozen, which is quite weird. Today and tomorrow are supposed to get up to about 60F, so the ground will stay unfrozen for at least another week, probably; and maybe longer if it stays this warm during the day. Motorcycles are still out an about, in numbers. Joggers are still in shorts and tee shirts. I have had a couple of frosty windshields so far, but it is already melting when I go to work, and a quick spray with the cleaner and wipers clear it off. I have not yet needed to wear gloves while driving, which is quite unusual, too. Bicycling is quite possible -- my 81 year old father is still riding his e-bike and others are out pedaling, too. The upside of this weather is our furnace is only needed once in a while.

12-05-11, 12:14 PM	#6
Higgy The Gardener Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manitoba - Canada Posts: 492 Thanks: 17 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	We've been anywhere from 5-10C warmer then last year. Mostly 5ish. Even now, today has really been the first really cold day at -25C this morning going up to -13C.

12-05-11, 02:23 PM	#9
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	Maybe on average it was colder. But, maybe your observations of being warmer, had to do with the day time peaks that occurred.?. It looks like about 70% of the days had the temp reach or exceed the average highs. We kinda saw the same thing. If the forecast said there was going to be a peak at noontime, we hopped on the bikes at 11:30 AM and rode 7 miles and have a nice lunch. We would come back home around 14:00, when the peak was really working for us! Didn't need no stinking jackets for lunch rides!! __________________ My hobby is installing & trying to repair mini-splits EPA 608 Type 1 Technician Certification ~ 5 lbs or less..

12-05-11, 05:32 PM	#10
hamsterpower Apprentice EcoRenovator Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 142 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Seemed warm to me, but I am also almost XRinger's neighbor.

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