Sanyo 24KHS72 AC/HP DIY install project - Page 27

Xringer · 12-28-10, 04:57 PM

You need to good gauge for pressure testing. I'm not sure that it needs to be a manifold set.

If you get a micron gauge that can also read positive pressure up to around 500PSI, that would do two jobs..
Pressure and vacuum.

I might try to that repair job myself this summer. It would be nice to have a complete outdoor unit for a spare..
Cost very little to repair it. I could pressure test it and get someone to refill it with R410A..

My Mom lives down in Texas, my daughter lives a few miles from us. Up here in MA.
~~

They do stay on, in OFF-standby mode. But, the compressor and fans are at a dead stop.
But, it seems like the Sanyo can wake up and run a defrost cycle..
Which I found very weird..

When the Sanyo is running and hits set-point, it goes into a low-slow cycle mode.
The outdoor compressor and fan stay off, but the indoor fan keeps turning, VERY slowly.
I think they just want a small amount of air-flow over the thermistor.
So the controller can keep track of the room temp vs the set-point you selected.
Otherwise, back-flow air off the coil (which may not be at room temp),
will drift up and affect the thermistor..

Cheers,
Rich

Vern2 · 12-29-10, 12:36 PM

Thanks for your reply great stuff. What is it... the devils in the detail, something like that. Right now I'm learning how to be a fair machinist, with my small shop.

We are socked in today in Phoenix, only 2 KWh so far 12:00 noon. Yesterday was a 42 KWh day and 16 KWh by noon.

I do go to the paint ball store to fill my 12 oz Co2 bottles for my welder. I didn't know that they might be able to fix me up with nitrogen. I'm totally rebuilding welding area. Most everything steel, even walls. Welding area

Do you see how I tend to get OT, Sorry.

Back on topic: Here is my mini split project. This will give a little better perspective. In 2010, this year there was a couple weeks of 115 degrees, no I mean 14 days straight. You don't want to be in the shop! Shop scenario

Vern

Xringer · 12-29-10, 02:39 PM

We had a little bit of sun today. Charged up the old Toyota battery for my wife's LED reading lamp..

42kwh! That's fantastic! Yesterday, I used 12.5kwh to heat my house.

I like that cutting table.. You should be able to carve out some neat stuff with that plasma cutter..

I on the other hand, enjoyed watching my Plasma TV last night..

"Knight and Day", wasn't too bad, for a formula movie.

It looks like you need a better digital camera. I can't tell if your
garage doors have insulation or not.?. Whats the deal on the ceiling?
Any good insulation up there?

What size range mini split are you looking at?
Going for AC and heat or just AC?

Cheers,
Rich

Vern2 · 12-29-10, 08:53 PM

The lowest KWh day for the year 2010 3.17 KWh. Select Month for day History for this month by days. monitoring for solar You can check TED for my daily Net usage. Select History tab. Look at numbers in grid lower left. TED

I'm an LED flat screen guy. Sony uses Adobe sound. So that fits in with the Bose that only uses Adobe also. My surround sound in the living room is Bose.

The bigest thing I ever built in my life was a duplex dog house. I know nothing about building houses, so 6 years of doing and re-doing, until I got it right.

Edit: Built a home link, not even done, but the link works. Home

Xringer · 12-30-10, 03:45 PM

My new inverter came today, so I've been busy all day testing it out..

Also got an oil fill today. The oil trucks are wearing out the streets here, for over a month.

From and including: Wednesday, November 3, 2010
To, but not including : Thursday, December 30, 2010

70 gallons used, In 57 days. 1.228 gallons per day (on average).
At $2.89 per gallon, it's $3.55 per day.
For hot water and some extra heat on long cold nights.
(Keeps the pipes in the den from freezing).

$3.55 x 30 = $106.47 a month during the coldest months of the winter.
When it gets warmer, we'll get back to 1/2 gallon a day. Or $43.35 per month.
I'm just hoping the price of heating oil stays like it is for a while..

Here's the weather during that time. Average 35.5F (it seemed colder).

Weather Station History : Weather Underground

Xringer · 01-07-11, 10:46 AM

I just got some spare time to install the remote on the hall wall..
It's sideways, so the IR LED points right at the Sanyo's receiver lens.

Here's a tip. If you install one of these, be sure that you use some thin fishing line.
Tie one end to the lanyard hole in the remote and make a loop in the other end.
Size the loop so it will fit over the clip arm (right above the off-on).

Now, it's less likely to be dropped when un-clipping..

Like my new Trane? Won that at a drawing, right here at EcoRenovator!

benpope · 01-07-11, 11:11 AM

Very nice. Could you use a piece of mylar to reflect the IR beam so that you could face your remote upright?

gogigaga · 01-10-11, 03:13 PM

Inspired by you all and the detailed information you have put together I decided to put up the LG mini split in my family room.
Just now I was at the stage where you bend the pipes just outside the house. I used a dowel but I think the pipe started deforming from round to oval at the bend point so I stopped.
I wanted one of you to take a look and tell me whether I should proceed or if I screwed up.

I cannot post pictures until I have 5 posts.

Thanks in advance!

Xringer · 01-10-11, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benpope

Very nice. Could you use a piece of mylar to reflect the IR beam so that you could face your remote upright?

I actually considered that. I have a small Laser reflector that I could have
used, but we had gotten used to seeing the remote laying on top of the
thermostat sideways.
So, it looks perfectly normal on it's side. At first, I kept doing a double-take.
while walking by.. Wondering, 'Why is that remote floating up like that'?

Or, 'Shouldn't that thing be two inches lower'?

Xringer · 01-10-11, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogigaga

Inspired by you all and the detailed information you have put together I decided to put up the LG mini split in my family room.
Just now I was at the stage where you bend the pipes just outside the house. I used a dowel but I think the pipe started deforming from round to oval at the bend point so I stopped.
I wanted one of you to take a look and tell me whether I should proceed or if I screwed up.

I cannot post pictures until I have 5 posts.

Thanks in advance!

I'm not 100% sure, but I think the lineset pigtails from the indoor unit on the
Sanyo were made out of extra soft copper. It just seemed easy to bend.

If the shape is only slightly oval, the flow isn't going to be restricted much, if any at all.

Just move the dowel down (or up), or use a larger dowel to get a larger arc.

By moving up or down a bit from the oval area, you should be able to
obtain the desired 90 degrees.
Just don't keep bending in the same area, since that could lead to a kink.

Go slow and keep that dowel tight underneath.

Good Luck,
Rich

12-29-10, 12:36 PM	#262
Vern2 Apprentice EcoRenovator Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 145 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for your reply great stuff. What is it... the devils in the detail, something like that. Right now I'm learning how to be a fair machinist, with my small shop. We are socked in today in Phoenix, only 2 KWh so far 12:00 noon. Yesterday was a 42 KWh day and 16 KWh by noon. I do go to the paint ball store to fill my 12 oz Co2 bottles for my welder. I didn't know that they might be able to fix me up with nitrogen. I'm totally rebuilding welding area. Most everything steel, even walls. Welding area Do you see how I tend to get OT, Sorry. Back on topic: Here is my mini split project. This will give a little better perspective. In 2010, this year there was a couple weeks of 115 degrees, no I mean 14 days straight. You don't want to be in the shop! Shop scenario Vern __________________ Vern To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Vern2; 01-11-11 at 04:46 PM..

12-29-10, 02:39 PM	#263
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	It was mosly overcast here, but We had a little bit of sun today. Charged up the old Toyota battery for my wife's LED reading lamp.. 42kwh! That's fantastic! Yesterday, I used 12.5kwh to heat my house. I like that cutting table.. You should be able to carve out some neat stuff with that plasma cutter.. I on the other hand, enjoyed watching my Plasma TV last night.. "Knight and Day", wasn't too bad, for a formula movie. It looks like you need a better digital camera. I can't tell if your garage doors have insulation or not.?. Whats the deal on the ceiling? Any good insulation up there? What size range mini split are you looking at? Going for AC and heat or just AC? Cheers, Rich

12-29-10, 08:53 PM	#264
Vern2 Apprentice EcoRenovator Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 145 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	The lowest KWh day for the year 2010 3.17 KWh. Select Month for day History for this month by days. monitoring for solar You can check TED for my daily Net usage. Select History tab. Look at numbers in grid lower left. TED I'm an LED flat screen guy. Sony uses Adobe sound. So that fits in with the Bose that only uses Adobe also. My surround sound in the living room is Bose. The bigest thing I ever built in my life was a duplex dog house. I know nothing about building houses, so 6 years of doing and re-doing, until I got it right. Edit: Built a home link, not even done, but the link works. Home __________________ Vern To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Vern2; 12-30-10 at 08:24 AM..

01-07-11, 10:46 AM	#266
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	Installing Sanyo remote control I just got some spare time to install the remote on the hall wall.. It's sideways, so the IR LED points right at the Sanyo's receiver lens. Here's a tip. If you install one of these, be sure that you use some thin fishing line. Tie one end to the lanyard hole in the remote and make a loop in the other end. Size the loop so it will fit over the clip arm (right above the off-on). Now, it's less likely to be dropped when un-clipping.. Like my new Trane? Won that at a drawing, right here at EcoRenovator!

01-10-11, 03:13 PM	#268
gogigaga Lurking Renovator Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Jose Posts: 14 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	help Inspired by you all and the detailed information you have put together I decided to put up the LG mini split in my family room. Just now I was at the stage where you bend the pipes just outside the house. I used a dowel but I think the pipe started deforming from round to oval at the bend point so I stopped. I wanted one of you to take a look and tell me whether I should proceed or if I screwed up. I cannot post pictures until I have 5 posts. Thanks in advance!

12-28-10, 04:57 PM	#261
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	You need to good gauge for pressure testing. I'm not sure that it needs to be a manifold set. If you get a micron gauge that can also read positive pressure up to around 500PSI, that would do two jobs.. Pressure and vacuum. I might try to that repair job myself this summer. It would be nice to have a complete outdoor unit for a spare.. Cost very little to repair it. I could pressure test it and get someone to refill it with R410A.. My Mom lives down in Texas, my daughter lives a few miles from us. Up here in MA. ~~ They do stay on, in OFF-standby mode. But, the compressor and fans are at a dead stop. But, it seems like the Sanyo can wake up and run a defrost cycle.. Which I found very weird.. When the Sanyo is running and hits set-point, it goes into a low-slow cycle mode. The outdoor compressor and fan stay off, but the indoor fan keeps turning, VERY slowly. I think they just want a small amount of air-flow over the thermistor. So the controller can keep track of the room temp vs the set-point you selected. Otherwise, back-flow air off the coil (which may not be at room temp), will drift up and affect the thermistor.. Cheers, Rich

12-30-10, 03:45 PM	#265
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	My new inverter came today, so I've been busy all day testing it out.. Also got an oil fill today. The oil trucks are wearing out the streets here, for over a month. From and including: Wednesday, November 3, 2010 To, but not including : Thursday, December 30, 2010 70 gallons used, In 57 days. 1.228 gallons per day (on average). At $2.89 per gallon, it's $3.55 per day. For hot water and some extra heat on long cold nights. (Keeps the pipes in the den from freezing). $3.55 x 30 = $106.47 a month during the coldest months of the winter. When it gets warmer, we'll get back to 1/2 gallon a day. Or $43.35 per month. I'm just hoping the price of heating oil stays like it is for a while.. Here's the weather during that time. Average 35.5F (it seemed colder). Weather Station History : Weather Underground

01-07-11, 11:11 AM	#267
benpope Helper EcoRenovator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 95 Thanks: 16 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Very nice. Could you use a piece of mylar to reflect the IR beam so that you could face your remote upright?