EcoRenovator  

Go Back   EcoRenovator > Improvements > Solar Power
Advanced Search
 


Blog Register 60+ Home Energy Saving Tips Recent Posts Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-16-08, 08:03 PM   #1
SVOboy
Administrator
 
SVOboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 291
Thanks: 3
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default DIY 60 watt solar panel

Posted about this on the blog, but I thought it was pretty need, something I'm not up to just yet: Build a 60 Watt Solar Panel

Anyone ever done one like this?

SVOboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-08, 10:57 AM   #2
Daox
Administrator
 
Daox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 5,451
Thanks: 1,101
Thanked 362 Times in 294 Posts
Default

That is so cool! I want to make one right now. But, the list is already soooo long. Ah well, it just got one longer.
__________________
Current project -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
&
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Daox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-08, 06:16 PM   #3
groar
X-Frenchy: very
 
groar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Toulouse, France
Posts: 153
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

I thought about a little off-the-grid system to supply a laptop. I search the Internet and found the following rules :
  • the solar panel must supply every day at least 1.5 times the medium daily consumption
  • the battery must permit to supply power during several consecutive days without solar power, generally 3 days is chosen.
  • the battery must never be discharged more than 50% to last longer.

As a laptop consumes 20W (mine is currently using 22W with LCD on but background light at 50%, when LCD is off then it's 17W) :
  • the solar panel must supply 20 * 24 * 1.5 = 720Wh/day.
    As I live in an area where solar panels supply 5.5 times their nominal value per day they must be 720 / 5.5 = 130W
  • the battery will have to supply 720 * 3 = 2160 Wh without solar power.
  • the battery capacity will be 2160 / 50% = 4320 Wh.
    As they are 12V, this is 4320 / 12 = 360 Ah.
    Such capacity doesn't exist so it can be obtained with 3 x 120 Ah batteries.

So you have to buy :
  • 1 solar panel : 120W (130W doesn't exist). 2 x 60W is also OK.
  • 3 batteries : 12V & 120Ah.
  • 1 charge controller (plugged between solar panel(s) and batteries)
  • 1 inverter (plugged between batteries and laptop)

Several weeks of research on French web sites and the lowest cost corresponded to more than 80 years of electricity for the laptop... the problem is that all that material will not last 80 years :
  • the batteries will have to be changed every 5-10 years, and maintained yearly !!!
  • the inverter will have to be changed every 10-15 years
  • the solar panels will have to be changed every 30-40 years...

As at this time my son was just born and we were then spending a lot of money for him, I couldn't afford to spend 1500 in such a project and it disappeared (not my son, the project

Denis.
__________________
Earth absorbs 1.8 t CO2/head/yr, while a French generates 6.2 t CO2/yr
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  • kg saved 06/08-08/09: 1816.9+382.9 (ecodriving / 1420mi not driven) = 2199.8
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    (2.66 kg/l diesel)
  • kg saved by 3kWc photo-voltaic solar panels : 187 kg/yr
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    (59.1 g/kWh)
Radioactive wastes saved by 3kWc photo-voltaic solar panels :
  • Long life (>100,000 years) : 2.85 g/yr (0.9 mg/kWh)
  • Short life (<300 years) : 31.7 g/yr (10.0 mg/kWh)
Based upon "official" French figures...
groar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-08, 12:04 PM   #4
Conradpdx
Lurking Renovator
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Forget the batteries and just plug the inverter straight into a wall outlet.

In some areas you can get a net meter which will change your billing with your power company. However, you won't get paid if you design a system that produces more than you need. Any additional power is your donation to the local power company. (This is a huge pet peeve of mine and the laws/rules should be changed). But they might also have requirements of system size, professionally installed etc that they're willing to work with.

Or you could just go outlaw and just do it. Now this is illegal (it'll run the meter backwards) without an agreement with your local power company. But as long as you don't drop your power bill too significantly I doubt that the local power company will care enough to take action, or at least it wont be worth the expense of them pursuing it. I've known a few people that have done this and they've never gotten in any trouble doing it. But I must say Its illegal so if something does happen to you should you try this don't blame me....you've been warned.
__________________
"live your life as an experiment"-- B. Fuller

If we can't be free, at least we can be cheap"--F. Zappa


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Conradpdx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-08, 07:50 PM   #5
ac7ss
Eco-Apprentice
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Pugetropolis, WA
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by groar View Post
Several weeks of research on French web sites and the lowest cost corresponded to more than 80 years of electricity for the laptop... the problem is that all that material will not last 80 years :
  • the batteries will have to be changed every 5-10 years, and maintained yearly !!!
  • the inverter will have to be changed every 10-15 years
  • the solar panels will have to be changed every 30-40 years...
You seem to be forgetting that the laptop is out of date in 3 weeks.

ac7ss is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Tags
electric, solar

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Ad Management by RedTyger
Inactive Reminders By Icora Web Design