$600 SEER 15 or $1,000 SEER 23

oil pan 4 · 07-27-16, 07:32 PM

Window units need to go. They are too small, don't cool well enough and are a security hazard as I live in the hood.
The window unit is an on/off 6,000BTU unit. It barely cools the bedroom on hot days.
I am going to get a split unit. I am leaning towards getting the more expensive 240v powered $1,000 inverter unit.
Best I can figure if I only used the more expensive air conditioner during the summer it would pay for its self in 2 years as compared to buying the $400 cheaper unit. Using the heat pump for heating during the winter, even better it may pay for its self in one year.

pinballlooking · 07-27-16, 08:05 PM

I would go for the higher SEER.

Check these guys out $1034
FREE DELIVERY AVAILABLE
27 seer.
Mini Splits by Gree
GREE TERRA 9000 BTU 220V 27 SEER = $ 1034 + TAX
I have three of these and really like them.

Other well know people have them also.
Tractor supply
http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pro...m?cm_vc=-10005

oil pan 4 · 07-27-16, 09:36 PM

Whats the energy savings between a 23 versus 27 SEER?
9,000btu would work.

pinballlooking · 07-27-16, 09:52 PM

23 SEER unit
Gree VIREO 9,000 BTU Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner w/ Inverter, Heat Pump, Remote & 50' Lineset (115V) - Single Zone Systems - Ductless Mini Split Systems - Heating & Cooling

103 Estimated Annual Cooling Cost

27 SEER unit
GREE Terra 9,000 BTU Wall Mounted Ductless Mini Split Heat Pump System R410A 208-230 VAC - Single Zone Systems - Ductless Mini Split Systems - Heating & Cooling

88 Estimated Annual Cooling Cost

It is only $15 a year savings. But the 27SEER unit has more options like quite mode when you sleep.
More fan options 1 degree temp chang.

Submittal Data
http://resource.comfortup.com/is/con...n_subs?fmt=pdf

http://17uo7e27w1attiybs22of10v.wpen...30V1A-V3.0.pdf

oil pan 4 · 07-28-16, 12:18 AM

I like the sound of quiet mode since it will be in the bed room where my wife who works night shift sleeps during the day.

pinballlooking · 07-28-16, 12:30 AM

My boy uses the quite mode at night. I also have the same unit in my bedroom and I never use it.
The low setting is pretty quiet. We don’t hear it at night. My room gets hit with direct sun all day and badly in the afternoon. I will turn mine up in the afternoon but by 6:00 I can turn it back to auto. This is just when we have these 95-100 degree days. My boys both leave them on auto fan all day.

The LG mini splits in the living room cool really well but the temp adjust 2 degrees at a time.
one setting is a little to warm the other setting is a little cool. (not as bad as forced air system)
The Gree I have adjust one degree at a time it is much simpler to get the exact temp you want.

mejunkhound · 07-28-16, 04:15 AM

Higher SEER usually are the inverter driven ones, and are quieter.

Buy a dozen or so 20 mm 120V MOVs from Mouser or other supplier and put in your disconnect box and at your breaker. Before I did that, son's Klimaire inverter unit reset every few months due to power line transients where he is.
reset = shutdown and required breaker cycling to reset automatic latch off.

stevehull · 07-28-16, 07:39 AM

Junkhound

Tell us more specifics for these MOVs. 120V and not 240V? Does one go on each 120V circuit?

Thanks,

Steve

pinballlooking · 07-28-16, 09:33 AM

I installed my first Gree mini split 10/18/2013 and LG unit right after that have not reset them once. Maybe my power is different I am the last house on a very long utility line.

Since I have solar the voltage would stray more than people that don’t have solar at lease during the day.

oil pan 4 · 07-28-16, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mejunkhound

Higher SEER usually are the inverter driven ones, and are quieter.

Buy a dozen or so 20 mm 120V MOVs from Mouser or other supplier and put in your disconnect box and at your breaker. Before I did that, son's Klimaire inverter unit reset every few months due to power line transients where he is.
reset = shutdown and required breaker cycling to reset automatic latch off.

Yeah I keep 130v rms AC on hand and stick them in side stuff as I build and modify. I use them to protect electronics, such as when I built my entertainment stand I put them in the built in electrical distribution system, or to protect power factor correction capacitors in welding machines and air compressors.

What I do with 240 volt machines (welders, air compressors and plasma cutter) is wire a 130v MOV from each line to ground.

07-27-16, 07:32 PM	#1
oil pan 4 Land owner Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NM Posts: 1,026 Thanks: 12 Thanked 127 Times in 107 Posts	$600 SEER 15 or $1,000 SEER 23 Window units need to go. They are too small, don't cool well enough and are a security hazard as I live in the hood. The window unit is an on/off 6,000BTU unit. It barely cools the bedroom on hot days. I am going to get a split unit. I am leaning towards getting the more expensive 240v powered $1,000 inverter unit. Best I can figure if I only used the more expensive air conditioner during the summer it would pay for its self in 2 years as compared to buying the $400 cheaper unit. Using the heat pump for heating during the winter, even better it may pay for its self in one year.

07-27-16, 08:05 PM	#2
pinballlooking Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: SC Posts: 2,923 Thanks: 172 Thanked 564 Times in 463 Posts	I would go for the higher SEER. Check these guys out $1034 FREE DELIVERY AVAILABLE 27 seer. Mini Splits by Gree GREE TERRA 9000 BTU 220V 27 SEER = $ 1034 + TAX I have three of these and really like them. Other well know people have them also. Tractor supply http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pro...m?cm_vc=-10005 __________________ Current project Aquaponics system , Passive Solar Greenhouse build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Solar Install 12.5 Kwh- To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Mini Split installs - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. EV Chevy Volt - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-27-16, 09:52 PM	#4
pinballlooking Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: SC Posts: 2,923 Thanks: 172 Thanked 564 Times in 463 Posts	23 SEER unit Gree VIREO 9,000 BTU Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner w/ Inverter, Heat Pump, Remote & 50' Lineset (115V) - Single Zone Systems - Ductless Mini Split Systems - Heating & Cooling 103 Estimated Annual Cooling Cost 27 SEER unit GREE Terra 9,000 BTU Wall Mounted Ductless Mini Split Heat Pump System R410A 208-230 VAC - Single Zone Systems - Ductless Mini Split Systems - Heating & Cooling 88 Estimated Annual Cooling Cost It is only $15 a year savings. But the 27SEER unit has more options like quite mode when you sleep. More fan options 1 degree temp chang. Submittal Data http://resource.comfortup.com/is/con...n_subs?fmt=pdf http://17uo7e27w1attiybs22of10v.wpen...30V1A-V3.0.pdf __________________ Current project Aquaponics system , Passive Solar Greenhouse build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Solar Install 12.5 Kwh- To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Mini Split installs - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. EV Chevy Volt - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-28-16, 12:30 AM	#6
pinballlooking Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: SC Posts: 2,923 Thanks: 172 Thanked 564 Times in 463 Posts	My boy uses the quite mode at night. I also have the same unit in my bedroom and I never use it. The low setting is pretty quiet. We don’t hear it at night. My room gets hit with direct sun all day and badly in the afternoon. I will turn mine up in the afternoon but by 6:00 I can turn it back to auto. This is just when we have these 95-100 degree days. My boys both leave them on auto fan all day. The LG mini splits in the living room cool really well but the temp adjust 2 degrees at a time. one setting is a little to warm the other setting is a little cool. (not as bad as forced air system) The Gree I have adjust one degree at a time it is much simpler to get the exact temp you want. __________________ Current project Aquaponics system , Passive Solar Greenhouse build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Solar Install 12.5 Kwh- To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Mini Split installs - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. EV Chevy Volt - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-28-16, 07:39 AM	#8
stevehull Steve Hull Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: hilly, tree covered Arcadia, OK USA Posts: 826 Thanks: 241 Thanked 165 Times in 123 Posts	Junkhound Tell us more specifics for these MOVs. 120V and not 240V? Does one go on each 120V circuit? Thanks, Steve __________________ consulting on geothermal heating/cooling & rational energy use since 1990

07-27-16, 09:36 PM	#3
oil pan 4 Land owner Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NM Posts: 1,026 Thanks: 12 Thanked 127 Times in 107 Posts	Whats the energy savings between a 23 versus 27 SEER? 9,000btu would work.

07-28-16, 12:18 AM	#5
oil pan 4 Land owner Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NM Posts: 1,026 Thanks: 12 Thanked 127 Times in 107 Posts	I like the sound of quiet mode since it will be in the bed room where my wife who works night shift sleeps during the day.

07-28-16, 04:15 AM	#7
mejunkhound Apprentice EcoRenovator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: PNW Posts: 197 Thanks: 0 Thanked 47 Times in 31 Posts	Higher SEER usually are the inverter driven ones, and are quieter. Buy a dozen or so 20 mm 120V MOVs from Mouser or other supplier and put in your disconnect box and at your breaker. Before I did that, son's Klimaire inverter unit reset every few months due to power line transients where he is. reset = shutdown and required breaker cycling to reset automatic latch off.

07-28-16, 09:33 AM	#9
pinballlooking Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: SC Posts: 2,923 Thanks: 172 Thanked 564 Times in 463 Posts	I installed my first Gree mini split 10/18/2013 and LG unit right after that have not reset them once. Maybe my power is different I am the last house on a very long utility line. Since I have solar the voltage would stray more than people that don’t have solar at lease during the day. __________________ Current project Aquaponics system , Passive Solar Greenhouse build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Solar Install 12.5 Kwh- To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Mini Split installs - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. EV Chevy Volt - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by pinballlooking; 07-28-16 at 10:09 AM..