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Old 12-21-14, 01:15 PM   #21
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Steve, Thanks for the catch. You are correct. The number was actually "about 15 millimeters" as reported by Jack Swigert on 1960's gauges. I removed the sentence because it could get someone hurt. Thanks

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Old 12-22-14, 09:14 AM   #22
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I suspect the Co2 ppm is not monitored

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Old 12-26-14, 04:58 PM   #23
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Are people calling Carbon monoxide Co2 ? or do they really mean Co2 and not Co ? If your testing for Co with a Co2 meter the result would be a Co2 level not a Co level


Co2 /carbon dioxide & Co /carbon monoxide Levels


Co (carbon monoxide) levels

The standards as of 2010 prohibit showing CO levels of less than 30 ppm on digital displays. The most recent standards also require the alarm to sound at higher levels of CO than with previous editions of the standard. The reasoning behind these changes is to reduce calls to fire stations, utilities and emergency response teams when the levels of CO are not life threatening. This change will also reduce the number of calls to these agencies due to detector inaccuracy or the presence of other gases. Consequently, new alarms will not sound at CO concentrations up to 70 ppm. Note that these concentrations are significantly in excess of the Canadian health guidelines.


Co2 levels in the work environment

Carbon dioxide, (CO2) detectors are commonly used to protect workers from leaks in fast food establishments and restaurants. The OSHA, ACGIH and NIOSH CO2 threshold limit value for 8 hours, (TLV) is 5,000 PPM, and the ACGIH and NIOSH short-term exposure level, (STEL) is 30,000 PPM.

Propane heaters test for Co as it is is harmful the low ppm , compared to Co2 and its massively high safe working ppm levels.




Conclusion: :

With Propane heaters , monitor the air quality with a Co monitor , not a co2 monitor / meter as you would likely pass out from carbon monoxide poisoning before the Co2 levels became dangerous.

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Old 12-27-14, 04:06 AM   #24
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With CO, a few breaths at 5,000ppm and you're done.

CO2 isn't really that dangerous.
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Old 12-27-14, 07:41 AM   #25
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Physiological Effects of Carbon Monoxide (CO)


Parts per Million------------ Time of exposure------------Response


50 ----------------------------------------------------Threshold limit, no apparent toxic symptoms

100 ------------------------Several hours------------- No symptoms for long periods

200 -------------------------2-3 hours ----------------Possible headache

400 --------------------------1-2 hours -----------------Frontal headache and nausea

800 --------------------------45 minutes--------------- Headache, dizziness and nausea

800 ---------------------------2 hours ------------------ Collapse and possible unconsciousness

1600 --------------------------20 minutes ----------------Headache, dizziness and nausea

1600 ---------------------------2 hours -------------------Collapse, unconsciousness, possible death

3200 ---------------------------5-10 minutes ------------- Headache and dizziness

3200 ---------------------------10-15 minutes --------------Unconsciousness and possible death

6400 ----------------------------1-2 minutes ----------------Headache and dizziness

6400 ----------------------------0-15 minutes ---------------Unconsciousness and possible death

12800 --------------------------------------------------------Immediate Unconsciousness


12800 ----------------------------1-3 minutes --------------Danger of death


Carbon Monoxide - Carbon Monoxide Poisoning


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Old 12-27-14, 01:35 PM   #26
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Physiological Effects of Carbon Monoxide (CO)


Parts per Million------------ Time of exposure------------Response


50 ----------------------------------------------------Threshold limit, no apparent toxic symptoms

100 ------------------------Several hours------------- No symptoms for long periods

200 -------------------------2-3 hours ----------------Possible headache

400 --------------------------1-2 hours -----------------Frontal headache and nausea

800 --------------------------45 minutes--------------- Headache, dizziness and nausea

800 ---------------------------2 hours ------------------ Collapse and possible unconsciousness

1600 --------------------------20 minutes ----------------Headache, dizziness and nausea

1600 ---------------------------2 hours -------------------Collapse, unconsciousness, possible death

3200 ---------------------------5-10 minutes ------------- Headache and dizziness

3200 ---------------------------10-15 minutes --------------Unconsciousness and possible death

6400 ----------------------------1-2 minutes ----------------Headache and dizziness

6400 ----------------------------0-15 minutes ---------------Unconsciousness and possible death

12800 --------------------------------------------------------Immediate Unconsciousness


12800 ----------------------------1-3 minutes --------------Danger of death


Carbon Monoxide - Carbon Monoxide Poisoning


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They missed one thing, the one thing that is unique to carbon monoxide poisoning: Ringing in your ears. If you develop ringing in the ears from carbon monoxide poisoning you are some were between "bad headache" and "unconsciousness".
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Old 12-27-14, 04:03 PM   #27
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Guys

If I may redirect: When I get my furnace properly installed I'm going to:

Make some coils for a wind turbine to offset my electric bill.

Encapsulate some cheap solar wafers between some plate glass I've had just hanging around.

Install more LED lighting with motion detectors.

Obtain some vacuum tubes for solar hot water and compare the results of a heat-tube with a copper loop.

Build a masonary heater between the kitchen and living room for uber heating with wood. and the odd pizza or fresh baked bread.


Something more exciting than CO will kill you!!! Always had and always will !!!

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Old 12-27-14, 06:45 PM   #28
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it would indeed be very dull to die from carbon monoxide poisoning.

The OB would read something like this :
Harry A. Jones - passed away peacefully at his home doing what he loved , rebuilding gas tanks and tinkering with propane appliances...

or

Fred passed away peacefully at his home doing what he loved , staying warm.


That is not what I want to be remembered for..lol

I would prefer something like - Remembered for his passion with speed boats and fast cars , which in the end cost him his life , at age 88.


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