Urinal anyone?

Wanna Beco · 10-02-11, 09:29 PM

Okay... so here it goes... My first thread... I think..

My background.. I have little to no mechanical expertise. I am learning as I go. As the son of a single mother we ordered out and lived in rented structures always after 3rd grade so all maintainance was taken care of for us always. I grew up and married. nothing was more embarrassing than buying a brand new toilet and having my wife install it cuz i didn't know how. I am learning tho and I changed 3 lawn sprinkler heads in just under 90 minutes. (i know it was slow, but they work)

That wife and I now have a 3 yo son. She insisted on potty training him.

and now he uses the toilet. He uses is it like a misogynistic sailor uses a Singapore call girl. He whizzes all over the place, flinging his pee like he is marking the territory for a whole herd of laughing hyena's.

My solution is to get a urinal that goes to the floor. When we go to McD's he uses one there and never spills a drop. But I need it to be waterless. That is me wanting to do my part for the environment. It must be cheap as I haven't worked for over a year.

Where can I find one of these? How hard is it to put in without the standard plumbing? And is this doable and has anyone else done it, or am I just nutzo?

Xringer · 10-02-11, 10:46 PM

Waterless? Man! That is NOT going to smell very good..

You need a flusher on it. At work (and at the bowling alley) they have auto-flush sensors,
once you zip-up and move away, it flushes a quart or two, all by itself.

TECHNICAL CONCEPTS AUTOFLUSH SIDEMOUNT - METAL (URINAL) TC 401982

Less than $200 on Ebay..

Dang, you can buy just about anything on Ebay!

CRANE WHITE PORCELAIN WALL MOUNT URINAL NOS | eBay

Ryland · 10-02-11, 11:08 PM

Teach him to pee outside, with kids you can easily get away with that on a city lot, as an adult it's a little harder but not impossible, I do it to keep the deer away from my garden and apple tree that is in the front yard.
Peeing out side does not use any water to flush and it's free to do and you don't have to worry about cleaning up over spray or splatter.

Wanna Beco · 10-02-11, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xringer

Waterless? Man! That is NOT going to smell very good..

not true

waterless urinals don't stink..really!

strider3700 · 10-03-11, 01:49 AM

urinals usually aren't cheap. It's far easier to teach him to aim...

Xringer · 10-03-11, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryland

Teach him to pee outside, with kids you can easily get away with that on a city lot, as an adult it's a little harder but not impossible, I do it to keep the deer away from my garden and apple tree that is in the front yard.
Peeing out side does not use any water to flush and it's free to do and you don't have to worry about cleaning up over spray or splatter.

Getting ratted out, arrested, fined and becoming a registered sex offender
is a problem for beer drinkers around here.

I suspect, in places where the PC fools have embraced zero tolerance
and are already treating misbehaving children like they were serious felons,
there are going to be those who would want to "Make an Example" of
boys who chose to relieve themselves in any public place.

If you live in a PC zone, you might want to be careful about teaching your
boy to pee in the great outdoors. You might end up facing the some
state 'Child Welfare' zealous in court.

S-F · 10-03-11, 07:29 AM

I second the outside recommendation. I pee outside whenever I can and my son does so more often than even I because, as said, he can get away with it. Find a spot that he likes.

Even though I more or less live in a city I can get away with it because a lot of my yard is blocked off by dense fir trees. I can actually go outside to smoke and use the lap top naked.

Ryland · 10-03-11, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xringer

I suspect, in places where the PC fools have embraced zero tolerance
and are already treating misbehaving children like they were serious felons,
there are going to be those who would want to "Make an Example" of
boys who chose to relieve themselves in any public place.

I'm not suggesting that you pee outside in public places, I'm suggesting you find a nice privet corner of your own back yard where fussy neighbors are not going to complain or even notice.
People who get tickets for public urination around here often get them because they were using the door way to a business, or an ally way and they were drunk enough not to notice that there was a cop standing behind them, when I pee in my yard I always make sure there is not a cop standing behind me and if there is I tell them to get off my lawn.

Xringer · 10-03-11, 07:44 AM

Hey S-F, Did you pose for any pictures??

When It Comes To Your Resume, Are You A Flasher, A Streaker, Or An All-Out Nudist? | Blog | Healthcare Informatics

Ryland · 10-03-11, 08:05 AM

If you check around your area you might find a used building matiral store, the one's that I've been to here often have urinals, altho they are the type that flush with water, your cost savings of going waterless is quite small because of the chemicals that you have to add to the waterless type and if you are going for used, you might be able to find one for $50 or so, of course the costly part is installing the drain, the water line is not bad if you use PEX tubing.

10-02-11, 09:29 PM	#1
Wanna Beco Helper EcoRenovator Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 69 Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Urinal anyone? Okay... so here it goes... My first thread... I think.. My background.. I have little to no mechanical expertise. I am learning as I go. As the son of a single mother we ordered out and lived in rented structures always after 3rd grade so all maintainance was taken care of for us always. I grew up and married. nothing was more embarrassing than buying a brand new toilet and having my wife install it cuz i didn't know how. I am learning tho and I changed 3 lawn sprinkler heads in just under 90 minutes. (i know it was slow, but they work) That wife and I now have a 3 yo son. She insisted on potty training him. and now he uses the toilet. He uses is it like a misogynistic sailor uses a Singapore call girl. He whizzes all over the place, flinging his pee like he is marking the territory for a whole herd of laughing hyena's. My solution is to get a urinal that goes to the floor. When we go to McD's he uses one there and never spills a drop. But I need it to be waterless. That is me wanting to do my part for the environment. It must be cheap as I haven't worked for over a year. Where can I find one of these? How hard is it to put in without the standard plumbing? And is this doable and has anyone else done it, or am I just nutzo? Last edited by Wanna Beco; 10-02-11 at 09:32 PM..

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10-02-11, 10:46 PM	#2
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	Waterless? Man! That is NOT going to smell very good.. You need a flusher on it. At work (and at the bowling alley) they have auto-flush sensors, once you zip-up and move away, it flushes a quart or two, all by itself. TECHNICAL CONCEPTS AUTOFLUSH SIDEMOUNT - METAL (URINAL) TC 401982 Less than $200 on Ebay.. Dang, you can buy just about anything on Ebay! CRANE WHITE PORCELAIN WALL MOUNT URINAL NOS \| eBay

10-02-11, 11:08 PM	#3
Ryland Master EcoRenovator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Western Wisconsin. Posts: 913 Thanks: 127 Thanked 82 Times in 71 Posts	Teach him to pee outside, with kids you can easily get away with that on a city lot, as an adult it's a little harder but not impossible, I do it to keep the deer away from my garden and apple tree that is in the front yard. Peeing out side does not use any water to flush and it's free to do and you don't have to worry about cleaning up over spray or splatter.

10-03-11, 01:49 AM	#5
strider3700 Master EcoRenovator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver Island BC Posts: 745 Thanks: 23 Thanked 37 Times in 30 Posts	urinals usually aren't cheap. It's far easier to teach him to aim...

10-03-11, 07:29 AM	#7
S-F You Ain't Me Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northampton MA Posts: 662 Thanks: 6 Thanked 71 Times in 58 Posts	I second the outside recommendation. I pee outside whenever I can and my son does so more often than even I because, as said, he can get away with it. Find a spot that he likes. Even though I more or less live in a city I can get away with it because a lot of my yard is blocked off by dense fir trees. I can actually go outside to smoke and use the lap top naked.

10-03-11, 08:05 AM	#10
Ryland Master EcoRenovator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Western Wisconsin. Posts: 913 Thanks: 127 Thanked 82 Times in 71 Posts	If you check around your area you might find a used building matiral store, the one's that I've been to here often have urinals, altho they are the type that flush with water, your cost savings of going waterless is quite small because of the chemicals that you have to add to the waterless type and if you are going for used, you might be able to find one for $50 or so, of course the costly part is installing the drain, the water line is not bad if you use PEX tubing.