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Exeric · 04-09-14, 02:05 PM

Discussions of this type that start out with a tentative issue are basically political rants that are concealed behind arguments that are designed to elevate peoples emotions. I basically agree with AC hacker almost completely. Follow the money.

Government is supposed to represent us. In fact it IS us in the collective sense. If it doesn't serve our needs it is because certain interest groups, read that as groups that want to make government serve their monetary interests, have gained too much power. The people who benefit most monetarily are not low level or medium level government employees. It is corporate interests who have the money to shape laws and to funnel money to top level government employees.

To reiterate what happened in California. We had meat and potatoes electric and gas utilities in California before the late 1990s. Then we got it in our head that complete deregulation would unleash the power of competition to improve service and lower prices. Almost instantaneously Enron manufactured power shortages that they disguised as routine maintenance for the rubes that were gullible. Prices during those event cost our local utilites triple, quadruple, and more. To those that say all regulation is bad I say to you: you are naive.

Yes poor regulations are out there. But they aren't the result of all government being bad. It is usually the result of some people at top levels in individual government agencies being too closely tied to corporate interests.

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Exeric Apprentice EcoRenovator Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: California Posts: 274 Thanks: 19 Thanked 37 Times in 28 Posts	Discussions of this type that start out with a tentative issue are basically political rants that are concealed behind arguments that are designed to elevate peoples emotions. I basically agree with AC hacker almost completely. Follow the money. Government is supposed to represent us. In fact it IS us in the collective sense. If it doesn't serve our needs it is because certain interest groups, read that as groups that want to make government serve their monetary interests, have gained too much power. The people who benefit most monetarily are not low level or medium level government employees. It is corporate interests who have the money to shape laws and to funnel money to top level government employees. To reiterate what happened in California. We had meat and potatoes electric and gas utilities in California before the late 1990s. Then we got it in our head that complete deregulation would unleash the power of competition to improve service and lower prices. Almost instantaneously Enron manufactured power shortages that they disguised as routine maintenance for the rubes that were gullible. Prices during those event cost our local utilites triple, quadruple, and more. To those that say all regulation is bad I say to you: you are naive. Yes poor regulations are out there. But they aren't the result of all government being bad. It is usually the result of some people at top levels in individual government agencies being too closely tied to corporate interests.