Global warming effects on heating cost - Page 4

NeilBlanchard · 04-09-12, 09:22 AM

Come on -- do you really believe that?

Anthropogenic climate science is as certain as any science can be that we humans have caused this incredibly rapid increase in carbon dioxide, and the climate is changing. Add more insulation and the climate warms -- this is just physics.

Xringer · 04-09-12, 12:17 PM

What the IPCC has said, seems to indicate they don't believe the extreme weather we've been seeing lately,
can't be shown to be linked to man-caused CO2 levels etc.

Or, maybe I read it wrong..?. I guess what they said is going to be up
for interpretation until a consensuses is reaches and it's all settled..

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The IPCC’s Special Report on Extremes, released March 28, reads, “There is medium evidence and high agreement that long-term trends in normalized [property] losses have not been attributed to natural or anthropogenic climate change.”
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EXTREME weather blown away from unexpected direction ? The Register

InvestigateDaily – Climate change may not be to blame for weather extremes – new IPCC report

IPCC Confirms: We Do Not Know If The Climate Is Becoming More Extreme

roflwaffle · 04-09-12, 03:26 PM

Jesus, can't these bloggers read the report before they post something? The IPCC didn't say that about extreme weather in general, just specific types of extreme weather (page 269 of the SREX report). They stated that there didn't appear to be a link between tropical and extratropical storms and tornadoes based on recent papers, but that there could be a link in terms of precipitation based events based on recent papers. They also stated that increased resilience to disasters could be one of multiple confounding factors masking any impact of climate change on extreme weather events, and also mentioned the limitations of the data sets. It takes a few decades for changes in weather to manifest themselves as changes in climate. I am sick and tired of bashing groups just because they don't agree with their funding source (fossil fuel companies). Saying that the IPCC got this one part right and everything else wrong because it agrees with the view of the group that writes your pay check is complete BS.

Xringer · 04-10-12, 07:27 AM

I guess they were Cherry Picking. Taking things out of context.
Luckily, the main stream media never does that!

roflwaffle · 04-10-12, 01:41 PM

Don't get me started!

04-09-12, 12:17 PM	#32
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	It's the IPCC What the IPCC has said, seems to indicate they don't believe the extreme weather we've been seeing lately, can't be shown to be linked to man-caused CO2 levels etc. Or, maybe I read it wrong..?. I guess what they said is going to be up for interpretation until a consensuses is reaches and it's all settled.. " The IPCC’s Special Report on Extremes, released March 28, reads, “There is medium evidence and high agreement that long-term trends in normalized [property] losses have not been attributed to natural or anthropogenic climate change.” " EXTREME weather blown away from unexpected direction ? The Register InvestigateDaily – Climate change may not be to blame for weather extremes – new IPCC report IPCC Confirms: We Do Not Know If The Climate Is Becoming More Extreme __________________ My hobby is installing & trying to repair mini-splits EPA 608 Type 1 Technician Certification ~ 5 lbs or less..

04-10-12, 07:27 AM	#34
Xringer Lex Parsimoniae Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 4,918 Thanks: 114 Thanked 250 Times in 230 Posts	I guess they were Cherry Picking. Taking things out of context. Luckily, the main stream media never does that! __________________ My hobby is installing & trying to repair mini-splits EPA 608 Type 1 Technician Certification ~ 5 lbs or less..

04-09-12, 09:22 AM	#31
NeilBlanchard Journeyman EcoRenovator Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth Posts: 383 Thanks: 78 Thanked 39 Times in 32 Posts	Come on -- do you really believe that? Anthropogenic climate science is as certain as any science can be that we humans have caused this incredibly rapid increase in carbon dioxide, and the climate is changing. Add more insulation and the climate warms -- this is just physics.

04-09-12, 03:26 PM	#33
roflwaffle Apprentice EcoRenovator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 116 Thanks: 29 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Jesus, can't these bloggers read the report before they post something? The IPCC didn't say that about extreme weather in general, just specific types of extreme weather (page 269 of the SREX report). They stated that there didn't appear to be a link between tropical and extratropical storms and tornadoes based on recent papers, but that there could be a link in terms of precipitation based events based on recent papers. They also stated that increased resilience to disasters could be one of multiple confounding factors masking any impact of climate change on extreme weather events, and also mentioned the limitations of the data sets. It takes a few decades for changes in weather to manifest themselves as changes in climate. I am sick and tired of bashing groups just because they don't agree with their funding source (fossil fuel companies). Saying that the IPCC got this one part right and everything else wrong because it agrees with the view of the group that writes your pay check is complete BS.

04-10-12, 01:41 PM	#35
roflwaffle Apprentice EcoRenovator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 116 Thanks: 29 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Don't get me started!