Insulating the garage - Page 4

fishaholic · 10-25-09, 12:27 PM

I'm not an electrician but the Black and Decker Electric book kept my garage from looking like the original job in yours. It's so much easier and cheaper to buy the book, read it, and do it right the first time (or get professional help). I wanted to run 220 to the garage and put a box in there but I don't have a need for 220 at this time.
Were you able to salvage the wiring and boxes to reuse them?

Daox · 10-26-09, 07:03 AM

My father in law didn't bother bending nails back etc. He just put up new boxes. This isn't really the way I wanted to do things, but I can understand the reasoning given the time limitations. Unfortunately, he isn't very environmentally minded. If it doesn't cost too much and is faster, its the right way even if that means wasting. I was able to reuse the light fixtures and receptacles. Also, I do have the boxes and will be able to reuse most of them for future projects.

Daox · 10-26-09, 07:41 AM

With a good amount of the electrical work done, we moved on to other things I wanted done while we were working on the garage. The first thing was that the man door for the garage was on the front of the garage instead of pointing towards the house. I never understood why it was built this way.

So, we started tearing off the siding to clear an area for the door.

Then I cut the hole for the door, and added sheeting to fill in the gaps where we pulled off that tar impregnated sheeting stuff.

While I was cutting the hole, my father in law took quite a while putting the frame together for the door making sure it was square, putting on the brick molding etc. Then, we were able to slide the door into place, shim it, and screw it into place.

The last thing we took care of on Saturday was the old door. We tore out the frame, added some 2x4s, and put some sheeting over it.

Later in the day, my mother in law started wiring up all the circuits to the service panel in the garage so we could get the lights working too.

Daox · 10-27-09, 06:14 AM

Sunday morning we started yet another project on the garage. The 17 foot garage door had some sag at the top.

So, we jacked the door up.

Then, we lag bolted a LBL up to the existing 2x12 frame pieces.

We started putting the siding back on, and also added a motion sensing light next to the new door. This didn't totally eliminate the sag, but it is much better now.

Then, we added a few more receptacles along the wall where the old door used to be.

And, we buttoned up the wiring to the panel, got the garage door opener mounted, put switches in (were just using breakers for a while), and put covers on everything.

All that, plus clean up time brought us to the end of the day. The in laws still had a 4 hour trip to go home, so we didn't get to work too late. But, it was pretty nice to rest for a few hours before going to sleep!

I still have to button a few things up. Receptacles still need to be added to the back (long) wall of the garage. We just didn't get time to do that. There is also caulking to be done to seal a few things up. I have an especially nice picture showing light shining through the sill plate area. After those things, we can look at doing some insulating!

TimJFowler · 12-04-09, 10:44 AM

So, what's happening? We need updates! 8*)

Daox · 12-04-09, 11:54 AM

Unfortunately there are no updates. I rearranged my garage with the new layout. I love it. But, I haven't done anymore work on it since then. I've been focusing on trying to get the mower ready to go so I could mow before the snow falls. Good thing too because just this week it started coming down.

Daox · 06-28-10, 07:12 AM

Woo an update. I finally resided the front of the garage. Its nice to have it looking good again. I also got some weather stripping up on the garage door.

I'll get pics of it later.

Daox · 12-07-10, 07:28 AM

I keep forgetting to post up pictures of the siding. But, I am kind of back on this project. I need some warmth to continue working on other things! So, I decided to put up a layer of plastic on the ceiling so if I use a heater, the heat will at least linger for a while. Before putting up this plastic, if I used my kerosene heater, I couldn't even tell it was on unless I was standing directly in front of it. Therefore I stopped using it and just lived with the cold and/or didn't work outside as much. From talking with others, this should help out a fair amount. Here are a couple pics.

In the middle of putting up the first sheet.

First sheet is all up. I have since added a second sheet up next to it. A third sheet has yet to go up (I have to clean all the junk out from up in the rafters), but the third sheet will seal everything up.

Daox · 12-21-10, 08:24 PM

Slowly but surely the work continues. Its almost done. Just gotta tape holes and do a bit more stapling around the walls. Then, I can finally work in an area that will keep some heat in!

gasstingy · 12-23-10, 07:38 AM

I enjoy the updates. It's great to see what trails others blaze so I can pick and choose what I do to my garage / workshop.

If I recall correctly, the plastic is a good vapor barrier that is worth the effort for your ceiling. Will you be adding a finishing material, like sheetrock, OSB or plywood at some point in the future?

10-25-09, 12:27 PM	#31
fishaholic Lurking Renovator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Just west of Center, WI Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm not an electrician but the Black and Decker Electric book kept my garage from looking like the original job in yours. It's so much easier and cheaper to buy the book, read it, and do it right the first time (or get professional help). I wanted to run 220 to the garage and put a box in there but I don't have a need for 220 at this time. Were you able to salvage the wiring and boxes to reuse them? __________________ Jim from just west of center, WI. I took the road less traveled by. Hope I find a gas station soon! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-26-09, 07:03 AM	#32
Daox Administrator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Germantown, WI Posts: 5,525 Thanks: 1,162 Thanked 374 Times in 305 Posts	My father in law didn't bother bending nails back etc. He just put up new boxes. This isn't really the way I wanted to do things, but I can understand the reasoning given the time limitations. Unfortunately, he isn't very environmentally minded. If it doesn't cost too much and is faster, its the right way even if that means wasting. I was able to reuse the light fixtures and receptacles. Also, I do have the boxes and will be able to reuse most of them for future projects. __________________ Current project - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-26-09, 07:41 AM	#33
Daox Administrator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Germantown, WI Posts: 5,525 Thanks: 1,162 Thanked 374 Times in 305 Posts	With a good amount of the electrical work done, we moved on to other things I wanted done while we were working on the garage. The first thing was that the man door for the garage was on the front of the garage instead of pointing towards the house. I never understood why it was built this way. So, we started tearing off the siding to clear an area for the door. Then I cut the hole for the door, and added sheeting to fill in the gaps where we pulled off that tar impregnated sheeting stuff. While I was cutting the hole, my father in law took quite a while putting the frame together for the door making sure it was square, putting on the brick molding etc. Then, we were able to slide the door into place, shim it, and screw it into place. The last thing we took care of on Saturday was the old door. We tore out the frame, added some 2x4s, and put some sheeting over it. Later in the day, my mother in law started wiring up all the circuits to the service panel in the garage so we could get the lights working too. __________________ Current project - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-27-09, 06:14 AM	#34
Daox Administrator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Germantown, WI Posts: 5,525 Thanks: 1,162 Thanked 374 Times in 305 Posts	Sunday morning we started yet another project on the garage. The 17 foot garage door had some sag at the top. So, we jacked the door up. Then, we lag bolted a LBL up to the existing 2x12 frame pieces. We started putting the siding back on, and also added a motion sensing light next to the new door. This didn't totally eliminate the sag, but it is much better now. Then, we added a few more receptacles along the wall where the old door used to be. And, we buttoned up the wiring to the panel, got the garage door opener mounted, put switches in (were just using breakers for a while), and put covers on everything. All that, plus clean up time brought us to the end of the day. The in laws still had a 4 hour trip to go home, so we didn't get to work too late. But, it was pretty nice to rest for a few hours before going to sleep! I still have to button a few things up. Receptacles still need to be added to the back (long) wall of the garage. We just didn't get time to do that. There is also caulking to be done to seal a few things up. I have an especially nice picture showing light shining through the sill plate area. After those things, we can look at doing some insulating! __________________ Current project - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-04-09, 10:44 AM	#35
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12-04-09, 11:54 AM	#36
Daox Administrator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Germantown, WI Posts: 5,525 Thanks: 1,162 Thanked 374 Times in 305 Posts	Unfortunately there are no updates. I rearranged my garage with the new layout. I love it. But, I haven't done anymore work on it since then. I've been focusing on trying to get the mower ready to go so I could mow before the snow falls. Good thing too because just this week it started coming down. __________________ Current project - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Daox; 12-04-09 at 12:02 PM..

06-28-10, 07:12 AM	#37
Daox Administrator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Germantown, WI Posts: 5,525 Thanks: 1,162 Thanked 374 Times in 305 Posts	Woo an update. I finally resided the front of the garage. Its nice to have it looking good again. I also got some weather stripping up on the garage door. I'll get pics of it later. __________________ Current project - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-07-10, 07:28 AM	#38
Daox Administrator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Germantown, WI Posts: 5,525 Thanks: 1,162 Thanked 374 Times in 305 Posts	I keep forgetting to post up pictures of the siding. But, I am kind of back on this project. I need some warmth to continue working on other things! So, I decided to put up a layer of plastic on the ceiling so if I use a heater, the heat will at least linger for a while. Before putting up this plastic, if I used my kerosene heater, I couldn't even tell it was on unless I was standing directly in front of it. Therefore I stopped using it and just lived with the cold and/or didn't work outside as much. From talking with others, this should help out a fair amount. Here are a couple pics. In the middle of putting up the first sheet. First sheet is all up. I have since added a second sheet up next to it. A third sheet has yet to go up (I have to clean all the junk out from up in the rafters), but the third sheet will seal everything up. __________________ Current project - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-21-10, 08:24 PM	#39
Daox Administrator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Germantown, WI Posts: 5,525 Thanks: 1,162 Thanked 374 Times in 305 Posts	Slowly but surely the work continues. Its almost done. Just gotta tape holes and do a bit more stapling around the walls. Then, I can finally work in an area that will keep some heat in! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Current project - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-23-10, 07:38 AM	#40
gasstingy Journeyman EcoRenovator Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Arab, AL Posts: 491 Thanks: 109 Thanked 49 Times in 43 Posts	I enjoy the updates. It's great to see what trails others blaze so I can pick and choose what I do to my garage / workshop. If I recall correctly, the plastic is a good vapor barrier that is worth the effort for your ceiling. Will you be adding a finishing material, like sheetrock, OSB or plywood at some point in the future?