EcoRenovator  

Go Back   EcoRenovator > Improvements > Geothermal & Heat Pumps
Advanced Search
 


Blog 60+ Home Energy Saving Tips Recent Posts


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 11-24-16, 10:03 PM   #11
jeff5may
Supreme EcoRenovator
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: elizabethtown, ky, USA
Posts: 2,431
Thanks: 431
Thanked 619 Times in 517 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to jeff5may
Default

No, you want to find soft annealed copper pipe and bend it cold! Common refrigeration interconnect lineset tubing is perfect for forming. Not the same material as hard water pipe.

After some amount of bending or extrusion, the pipes will harden. At this point, it's difficult to work with. If the tubing is heated, you have to have inert gas inside it so it won't rust. Next level of difficulty kind of process. Keep on with your research and development and figure out something you are comfortable with producing yourself BEFORE you spend any extra time or money!

What I would do given your situation is to get the stock setup rigged up with taps on the suction, discharge and liquid lines. I would definitely stick some valves into the plumbing for flow control, mainly to be able to cut the outdoor fan and heat exchanger flow if I needed to. THEN I WOULD RUN IT LIKE I STOLE IT.

After I trusted it to work and not die in a short time, THEN I would bother to try to improve it. If it gets too cold outside for it to work, just shut it down. The main idea here is that you will learn a lot about the unit just getting it up and running like usual. Once you have run the unit and have done some tests on it, you will develop a basis of comparison for it. The whole project will build your confidence in what you are doing is valuable. Plus, it will work fine for 3 seasons of the year, and begin to pay for itself.

The plate heat exchanger referenced this time is much closer to what you will need to do the job. 50 plates may be over sized, maybe 30 or 40 plates of the same series would be enough. Probably not very cheap either.

I agree completely with Randy. These things aren't heavy and expensive for no reason. Anything you build has to work like a brick or an anvil or it will die violently. Murphy's law bites hard in this realm. More important than the material cost, it takes a high level of perfection, determination and mental toughness that not many people possess. Just look at the disasters that most of us have had building this stuff! Falling on your face and having to start all over again is common.


Last edited by jeff5may; 11-24-16 at 11:36 PM..
jeff5may is offline   Reply With Quote
 



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Ad Management by RedTyger
Inactive Reminders By Icora Web Design