Jeff that does make sense, so basically as long as it's big enough both ways should work.
Randen, thanks for the pictures. I am not considering a hdpe loop. It's either DX or open loop. Open loop would mean no antifreeze.
The freezing problem does sound bad, that is why I'm now thinking 2 coils with water and refrigerant split between them. And I like the gas on the outside idea because I'm thinking it will limit how much refrigerant flow acts on the water as fast, hopefully helping with freezing as well.
I breeze with 15% sliphos.
The other end is a 4 ton older air handler.
I have a idea I'm going to see if even is possible. I'll post pictures soon.
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