[stevehull]

Jeff, - how about "some" engineers don't think out of the box and "some" engineers want to pull things inside the box . . . .

I often point to the Apollo project and engineers who not only thought out of the box, but thought out of this world. Simple mission statement in 1963; go to the moon, pick up some rocks and return to earth. No technology to do this, but physics that dictated limits. Six years later (1969), this mission was accomplished - all done by engineers.

All that said, there are a LOT of middle level engineers who can't/won't think. Upper level engineer types have to constantly pry them out of complacency and comfort.

One modern company that does think out of the box - GE.

OK AC, you can now delete these posts as they do not follow your thread . . . .

Steve