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But the name of the game is not just to make profit, but to make the maximum profit possible. I'm still not satisfied that deep water drilling is not the biggest boondoggle ever seen. Because much more profit can be made (we could buy oil much cheaper) if all that effort was put into drilling on land. I mean the price of oil has skyrocketed since they started that deep water drilling fiasco, and American taxpayers are supposed to foot the bill. -AC_Hacker |
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more solar denial bs, try solar city, they install solar panels on your house and charge you nothing, and will give you 1000$ worth of electricity if you sign up by feb 29th solar is not more expensive http://www.solarcity.com/ |
YOU UNDERSTAND THIS? STOP YOUR DAMN LIES!
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their nuclear weapons development sites. Obama is telling Israeli not to worry, it's going to be at least a year before the crazies have nukes. The IDF (Israel Defense Forces) knows it's only a matter of time before the Iranian bomb factories are buried too deep for convention weapons. Their heads are on the block.. For them, it's a choice between bombing this month, or wait until next year and then nuke those sites.. I'm sure all the "republicans and defense contractors are drooling" to have fallout swirling around the world. Yeah, that really sound like great fun. :rolleyes: |
I see that you're reacting as most fervently religious people act when their faith is attacked with reason and logic and facts. You lash out.
Look at the numbers with Germany - the costs for electric bills went UP when people started adding solar infrastructure to their homes. Your invocation of the talisman of Solar City doesn't help your case. Here is a quote from their website: Federal, state and local governments offer incredible financial incentives to encourage homeowners to switch to renewable energy. These incentives dramatically lower the cost of a solar system or energy efficiency project. These incentives often make solar power less expensive than power from the utility company.This company relies on a 50% kickback/subsidy from governments. The cost of solar isn't cheaper, the cost is shifted to taxpayers. Why should your neighbor have to subsidize your consumption of more expensive solar power through the use of his taxes. Your power consumption is not a public good, meaning that his life isn't improved, nor is the communities, by your own personal consumption habits which they are subsidizing. How would you feel if you had to subsidize his annual vacation to Hawaii with your tax dollars. Personal consumption is personal consumption is personal consumption. |
still the cost of a broken ecosystem and bad crops and drought and houses burned down(5k) in texas last year is. whats the prices to fix those things? hmm yea ummm waiting for your response so cleverly described as reason, also the health benefits of reduced pollution will pay for itself 10 fold. These are proven statements,
the economy will improve if health costs are reduced, hence why the whole oil crap is a fassad for our economy, the REAL ECONOMY IS US, THE PEOPLE OF THIS PLANET, NOT SOME CRAP WE DRUDGE FROM THE GROUND, GO SOLAR NOW, SCREW ALL OIL COMPANIES, AND THEIR PROFITS THEY SPENT ON DISPELLING CLIMATE, SECURITY, AND HEALTH TRUTH. PLEASE SPARE ME YOURE CONSERVATIVE, THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T HELP US AFFORD GREEN ENERGY STANCE, HELL THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD SOLELY EXIST TO PROVIDE ME GREEN ENERGY, PLAIN AND SIMPLE, AND STAY THE HELL OUT OF MY LIFE OTHERWISE, AND , PUTTING REGULATIONS ON OIL COMPANIES AND PHARMACEUTICALS, ALSO DOCTORS, IS STAYING OUT OF MY LIFE, I AM NOT AN OIL COMPANY, THANX. |
Just goes to show that religion is a very touchy topic.
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Alan that is a straw man argument. Reality and facts are what they are. Science is the way we humans are working to understand the universe around us. Climate science is interrelated to almost all other fields of science, and the peer review process is the same for all science.
You and I are not qualified to criticize brain surgeons, or astrophysicists, or oceanographers, and we are certainly not able to dismiss the conclusions of all the IPCC scientists. They are telling us about reality and just like if astrophysicists were telling us about an asteroid on a collision course with earth -- we ignore them at our peril. |
Alan, you are so right..
"How would you feel if you had to subsidize his annual vacation to Hawaii with your tax dollars."??
Actually, when the people who live in this multi-million dollar house in Lexington, MA. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...0slot/R053.jpg Go to Hawaii on vacation, I will be subsidizing their vacation.. Money is money. The state of Mass has a LOT of expenses.. On Deval Patrick’s watch, six-figure salaries spike - BostonHerald.com Where do they go to make up the short-fall?? Taxpayers & fee-payers maybe?? This state is like a Black-Hole for cash.. The more it gets, the stronger the cash-pull gets.. Isn't there some critical mass point, and then it's all over?? :eek: |
I notice the vacuum solar hot water collector on the roof. At least they are getting all their hot water carbon free.
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I wonder how long those glass tubes will last, if the Stuff ever hits the fan.?. |
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PS. Please try to refrain from including "climate science" with the other broad areas of human endeavor which are categorized as science, for science requires the testing of hypotheses such that they can be falsified and further, computer simulations in other fields don't count as scientific conclusions unless they've been validated against real physical phenomena. |
alan e the new source for global warming information, pfft
youre probably another douche blogger wanna be working for those polluters up in canada. gah stupid trolls |
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LOL, how true!! "computer simulations in other fields don't count as scientific conclusions
unless they've been validated against real physical phenomena." Having a good 'simulation' demo is one way software companies sell their wares to the government.. Computer modeling in weather forecasting can be very accurate at times. I think the reason is due to all the historical weather weather data sourced by the programs. The programs are getting better and better. I can't believe how many times they get within an inch of being right on snow depth in our area. They do have some real value. But, the people inputting the data into short term weather forecasting software will only earn their pay and job security, by being very accurate.. If they are inaccurate too many times, their resource will no be in demand. Contrast that with forecasting global warming (or other future events). In this case, manipulating the data could mean job security for life. Maybe even have your kids go to Harvard. Zealotry or greed or just the thirst to be famous seems to be the cause of people putting themselves ahead of everything else. Maybe, if global warming had not became a religion, we would have a better handle on long range weather forecasting.. I find it very strange that many people who have absolutely no clue how weather works, and have never read more than a few headlines on the topic, can be such strident followers of global warming. Maybe it was Al's movie? Declaimer: My only book on weather is Dennis Pagen's paperback 'Understanding The Sky'... (Which I recommend for people interested in flight). blog.rodbailey.com/uploads/DennisPagen-UnderstandingTheSky.pdf |
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2.) Help a dude out - you add little to no value to a dialog by simply vomiting forth the claim "This is stupid" so why not instead actually explain your position on why what I wrote is stupid. That way I can learn from your wisdom and all the other people reading this thread can have their knowledge-base enriched by your careful refutation of my points. HINT: Shouting "Blasphemerer" won't really count as a careful refutation. |
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Love trumps all forms of money, love for earth, and your neighbor. go spew your fiscal garbage to the fiscal dump please |
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hahaha we won, keystone sucks! alan go get all emo oil company baby denier blankety and suck a wollypop :eek: |
Well thats about enough of that. If ya can't keep it civil... well I'm just gonna delete it or lock it down. I don't mind some debates, even a bit heated. But, there is no reason to name call and alienate others. C'mon guys, really, we're all adults here.
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