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Higgy 12-29-10 11:33 AM

Whole House Humidifier
 
Hey all,

Daox and I were talking as I want to install a whole house humidifier into my house and we found a few decent ones. Does anyone have any recommendations on which one of these to purchase? I know the honeywell one you have to replace the filter. The Air King and Desert Spring you don't have to. The Desert Spring is more expensive but seems to have better reviews.

Here are some links to some we have found:
Desert Spring: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en
Honeywell: http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/s...k=P_PartNumber
Air King: http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/s...k=P_PartNumber

Any recommendations out there?

Daox 12-29-10 11:39 AM

I have something similar to the Air King model that Higgy listed. Its rebranded a Lasko though. Seems to work fine for me. This year I've set mine to 40% and thats pretty darn close to what my house stays at. I'd say +/- 2% from my minimal humidity monitoring. I did just get a nice weather station for Christmas though. I'll take a few more readings from different points in the house and report back.

I have no idea how much water it uses though. Perhaps I'll put a bucket under the drain tonight to see.

Daox 12-30-10 07:13 AM

I checked my humidity last night. The humidistat is set ~40% and it was 38% on average in the house in a couple spots.

Ryland 12-30-10 11:43 AM

If your humidity is to high you will get water condensing and freezing inside your walls, not just on your windows.
It's better to humidify your bed room or just the room that you want to have more humidity, you can also have more house plants to add more humidity to the air.

There are alot of heating contractors that will not install whole house humidifiers because of the issues that they create in the rest of the house.

Higgy 12-30-10 12:47 PM

Ryland, do you have any recommendations on certain types of room humidifiers?

Daox 12-30-10 12:56 PM

I would imagine that if you are using a HRV that a whole house humidifier would be a very nice addition to the HVAC system.

Xringer 01-04-11 12:59 PM

is warm moist air heavy?
 
I wonder what if warm moist air is much heavier than dry air,
and would warm micro-droplets sink into the cool dense air near the floor.?.

We recently replaced our old (loud) humidifier with a newer
(quieter) more effective unit. The humidity has gone up
from about 20-23 % to a soild 33 to 35 %...

During the last 24 hours, I've noticed what seems to be an increased heating power usage.
(Sanyo mini-split ASHP has been the only heat source).


Is it possible that warm moist air sinks to the floor faster,
and transfers it's heat into the cool floor a little faster (than drier air)??

This fall, we removed the carpet and the hardwood floor feels pretty cool,
since the basement isn't heated.
So, I'm thinking maybe hardwood is a good transfer medium for moving heat into the basement.. :(


In the geothermal-slab cooled basement, the temperature of the uninsulated
ceiling is 4 to 5 degrees F warmer than wooden interior walls (@5' off the floor).

So, I'm guessing those subflooring boards are being warmed by Mr. Sanyo.


I know that air-space is an important part of insulation. Like having
some dry air between the glass of your windows.

Let's say my coffee table is at 22C and there is a nearby picture window
that's sucking heat out of my coffee table.. Does moist air enhance the transfer?

Is humidifying the living area air, increasing the heat loss??


Comments?

Ryland 01-04-11 04:11 PM

Moist air holds more heat and transfers heat better the dry air, moisture in your walls will also make them a better thermo conductor.

RobertSmalls 01-04-11 06:04 PM

This effect should be much more than made up for by the decreased temperature differential (which drives both conduction and convection) between indoors and out, or indoors and basement slab.

And yes, hardwood is a good conductor of heat. I laid down carpet over my hardwood, and my toes are much happier, as are my knees and ears. :)

PaleMelanesian 01-05-11 08:27 AM

Can I ship you all my excess humidity? I'm this close to acquiring a couple DEhumidifiers for my house.


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