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Daox 08-16-11 11:22 AM

DIY battery electric push mower (cordless)
 
For a while now I've considered making my own battery powered push mower. The electric riding mower I have is great and I love it. But, it can't get everywhere and I end up using the weed wacker to mow areas larger than I'd like. I'm not ready to pull the trigger and start making one, but did want to start a thread to collect ideas and improve the design. I think it is entirely feasible to design a DIY battery powered push mower for less than the cost of the cheapest brand new gas push mower. I'd also like to use as many off the shelf parts so that it is easy for others to replicate.

I looked up the price on lowes.com and saw their cheapest mower is about $150. It doesn't have very good reviews either... In any case, the goal will be to keep the price under that.

So, lets start looking at possible parts.

mower
This is the easy one. Find one for free! There are PLENTY of dead mowers out there that people are throwing away all the time. Put an ad on craigslist.org or freecycle.org. Someone is sure to be happy to have you take their 'junk' away.


motor
I've been looking at electric scooter motors. They're very low cost, about $0.10 per watt. I think a 300W motor would do just fine for this application, so you'd have to pay a whopping $30 for one. Most of these motors are 24V. If you go to a higher wattage motor you're probably looking at 36V motors.


batteries
For batteries, you're stuck paying whatever they're going for unless you're like MetroMPG and know people. The sealed lead acid batteries seem to ideal for this setup as you can get them in many different capacities. What you go with is completely dependant on how much run time you need. For me, I honestly only need 5-10 minutes, so two 7Ah batteries would probably be more than enough.


charger
Again, scooter chargers are incredibly cheap. You can get a 24V charger for $15 shipped off of ebay. It is of course a cheap Chinese made (what electronics components arent though) charger, but it will work well for the application.


blade to motor adapter
This is the only thing that I'm having a bit of trouble finding. I'm still looking for ideas. Obviously, I'd like to keep this as something you can easily make, or buy for cheap somewhere. Its also a pretty critical part since its holding a sharp steel blade that will be spinning at about 2500 rpm!


power switch
I think a ~30A switch from radio shack or whatever local electronics store will do just fine. It should cost about $5 would be my guess.

MetroMPG 08-16-11 11:40 AM

For the adapter between the motor/ blade, I'd be looking at somehow re-using the connection that comes with your dead mower. So you don't have to reinvent the wheel.

As for batteries - there are all kinds of free, small batteries out there: alarm companies, mobility scooter sales/service places, motorcycle shops, etc.

Just depends how much time you want to spend searching/waiting for a functional, re-usable one vs. just buying a new one. I like the thrill of the hunt, plus it's more satisfying to make functional stuff with as little money and as much re-use as possible.

But I still think you should totally go the ghetto route and find a beefy cooling fan motor from a junked truck, or even better: a starter motor! :) You'll be famous when you post the YouTube video of your hacked starter motor mower with a litle 12v car battery on top and jumper cable wiring.

dh1 08-16-11 08:13 PM

I searched Kijiji and found some for $50. or less, cordless mowers for sale, some good some with bad batteries.
From what I've seen if you don't keep the batteries charged or hooked to the charger as the manufacturer says they don't last.
Here's a short video of a 24volt, 17amp/hr, 20"cut, Yardworks cordless mower cutting some grass. Estimated run time 45minutes.
Yardworks 24volt mower - YouTube

MetroMPG 08-16-11 09:32 PM

That's long grass to cut. I don't know if I'd subject my revived M3300 to that.

dh1 - where in Ont. are you? (Roughly, if you don't want to reveal specifics.)

dh1 08-16-11 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 15306)
That's long grass to cut. I don't know if I'd subject my revived M3300 to that.

dh1 - where in Ont. are you? (Roughly, if you don't want to reveal specifics.)

Markham near Pickering border.

I was walking a little slow in the video as the mower was loading up pretty good.

MetroMPG 08-16-11 09:48 PM

Aha - I'm east of Kingston, though I grew up in east Scarberia.

To me the whole point of a power mower is as a time saving device: I could use the push/manual reel mower once a week (or more often, in the spring) as long as I don't let the grass get too long.

With a power mower, I can wait more days between cuts, and it takes fewer passes to do the job than my manual reel mower.

But the M3300 is not a mower I'd subject to heavy loads. Yours looks better

And Daox's 300w spec on his theoretical DIY mower is probably a wise move.

dh1 08-16-11 10:04 PM

I grew up in western Scarberia.

I haven't had time to do any test, amp meter readings on my cordless, the heavy wire size is 12ga. Double the voltage 1/2 the amps for the same power.
Plan on trying a extra battery, 36volt set-up, on a 24volt yardworks push mower. Be nice to have more power.

A battery you might want to look at is the lawn tractor battery, 34 amp/hr, you can get the sealed type at CTC or WallMart, about $100. last time I checked.

Currently working on this as time permits>http://ecorenovator.org/forum/lawn-g...ower-deck.html

Also I have a Suzuki Sidekick with a good body and a ADC FBI4001A
hope to someday make a battery powered EV out of the 2.

Ryland 08-16-11 11:11 PM

If you can't find a 30 amp switch then you might try a starter push button and a lower amp switch as the wear in the switch comes from making contact and again from breaking contact, or just a wire bale that holds the push button down.
I really like the idea of using scooter parts, if the motor is powerful enough of course, so you might try to find a whole scooter that has issues and rip in to that.

d3vi1d06 08-17-11 07:47 AM

heres a point of reference.
i have a 48v 20" battery powered push mower by ryobi.
i live on .63 acres of land.
one battery charge lasts for half of my yard. the grass is not too thick, roughly 1 hour of use. side discharge. no self propel use.
the battery takes 12 hours to charge.

ryobitools.com/catalog/outdoor_products/mowers/RY14110

Daox 08-17-11 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dh1 (Post 15303)
I searched Kijiji and found some for $50. or less, cordless mowers for sale, some good some with bad batteries.

I've been watching craigslist and either people around here don't have them, or they want a mint for them. Plus, DIY is a fun project and if I can come up with an easy way for others to do it too, that would be great.


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