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strider3700 11-15-10 12:05 PM

Thats an amazing price. I'm on the wrong side of the continent in the other country so duty bringing it across the border would kill me on these. shipping to seattle is only $55 though so that's not half bad

Xringer 11-15-10 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by strider3700 (Post 9409)
Thats an amazing price. I'm on the wrong side of the continent in the other country so duty bringing it across the border would kill me on these. shipping to seattle is only $55 though so that's not half bad

But hey, these are Canadian Solar panels! They would just be coming back home.. LOL!

Actually, I just found out that Canadian Solar panels are made in China..
But, all my other panels are made in China too. And they work just fine.. :D


Edit:
The best price I could find on the east coast is $ 1.94 per Watt.. But you have to buy 7500 units!!

st2288 11-15-10 04:56 PM

thinking about $500 for 2 more..

Xringer 11-15-10 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by st2288 (Post 9419)
thinking about $500 for 2 more..

Would they go for it? I know it's a discontinued model, but they are still being
sold around the county for big bucks..

Does yours have the standard MC4 connectors installed???

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../Solar/MC4.jpg

st2288 11-15-10 07:02 PM

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I think so... they are all MC4 from what I remember.. I didn't have a chance to open it yet.
Just finshed wiring a ac cutover.

I wire the output of the enphase inverter (240v) to a ac cutoff. I tied the Sunnyboy ac output to the output of cutoff switch. I can't wire directly into the outdoor because the utility company place a tag on it.

enphase ----> cutoff ---->---------> Outdoor AC cutoff.
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Sunnyboy (AC output) ---|


Dont know if that make sense

Xringer 11-16-10 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by st2288 (Post 9424)
I think so... they are all MC4 from what I remember.. I didn't have a chance to open it yet.
Just finshed wiring a ac cutover.

I wire the output of the enphase inverter (240v) to a ac cutoff. I tied the Sunnyboy ac output to the output of cutoff switch. I can't wire directly into the outdoor because the utility company place a tag on it.

enphase ----> cutoff ---->---------> Outdoor AC cutoff.
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Sunnyboy (AC output) ---|


Dont know if that make sense

It sounds logical to me.. You can isolate your new GTIs at either cut-off.

That may be a good idea. When running two different brands of GTI,
I would always wonder if the Sunnyboy would see the Enphase as the grid.?.
Or the other way around.. If one of the GTIs is fooled into thinking the grid is still up (after it fails),
then you might get some island thing going..



Are you going to get an EnPhase inverters for each new panel? And the pigtail? (Install kit)..

http://www.solarpanelstore.com/assets/installkit.jpg
Since you will void the warranty if you splice into a module cable.

If I was buying Enphase GTIs, I would be going crazy to get the network link box..
Enphase Envoy - Energy Management Unit or, EMU...

I think that's one of the things that gives Enphase it's coolness factor.. :cool:

Did you make an offer on 2 more panels??
And, did you look over the 3 you already have? Needs some details!
Maybe some pictures? :D
Thanks,
Rich

st2288 11-16-10 06:42 PM

They didn't take my offer.. oh well...

Both inverters are tied into a outside ac cutoff switch and route it back to a 30 amp breaker to my main.. so both will see the feed from the grid.
I bought the pigtail wire. without the mounting bracket and the end plug. I just used electrical tape to cover the last inline.

I got my TED 5000.. don't want to spend another 350+ for the EMU.

Right now I am building a mount for the 3 panels out of 2x4

Xringer 11-17-10 08:14 AM

That TED 5000 is a nice metering system. But not real cheap as you know.

Someday, if I ever start making AC, it won't be a lot, so I can use my Kill-a-watt
meter or maybe take the Efergy sensor off the Sanyo and put it on the inverter.

I can also look at DC into a load using my little panel tester..
http://ecorenovator.org/forum/applia...pv-panels.html
If the source voltage is below 60v.. :o


I was also thinking about ground mounts. But using PVC pipe..
When I was making a little snow shield for my ASHP, I noticed
the configuration might be a start on a panel carrier design..

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...olar/model.jpg
Just need to make it articulating, so it can be set for the time of the year..

Something like this would be neat for 2 panels. Portable too.
I could drag it into the garage while away on road trips.
Or truck it out to the woods for more civilized camping trips.?. :rolleyes:

st2288 11-17-10 08:22 AM

Actually compare to other solar monitoring system. TED 5000 is cheaper.
Enphase EMU is about $350.00 and need to subscribe for about $3.00 a year.
The enphase only monitor enphase. The TED 5000 is monitoring 2 solar inverters and
the total adjusted load. The only negative about the TED 5000 is when the inverters are off. The TED still show the inverters are generating.. about 10w per hr.. So I need to adjust the output of the inverters to about 92%. The Sunnyboy monitoring setup is about $1000.00 which is crazy....I am looking to uninstall them and put it on ebay.

Xringer 11-19-10 08:30 AM

My MC4 connectors came the other day, and yesterday I got a 'shipped' notice.
The new panels might be here by Monday!

After my accident this week, http://ecorenovator.org/forum/solar-....html#post9482
I'm not sure where I'm going to put these new panels..
A simple ground mount is the fall-back plan..


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