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Old 03-24-12, 10:52 AM   #1
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Pine trees reveal changes in wood color, density, and growth
rate following irradiation from the Chernobyl disaster.
T.A. Mousseau, University of South Carolina (2009)

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What does it all mean? From what I understand early annual wood growth is lighter and slower late summer/fall growth is darker. Is there any information on the effects with a detailed explanation of what is happening?
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What does it all mean? From what I understand early annual wood growth is lighter and slower late summer/fall growth is darker. Is there any information on the effects with a detailed explanation of what is happening?

The photo is from the cover of a document, generally referred to as the 'Yablokov Chernobyl book' that thoroughly assesses the environmental and health impacts of Chernobyl.

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So how much effect will we see here from the Japan disaster?
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So how much effect will we see here from the Japan disaster?
Roughly none on land:
RadNet Data - Portland, OR | Japanese Nuclear Emergency: Radiation Monitoring | US EPA

However, excessive radioactive Cesium was found in the ocean water near Fukushima. I will continue my practice of not eating any oceanic carnivores, on account of how high up the food chain they are, and how much heavy metal and other natural and artificial nasty things find their way into the oceans.

AC, thanks for sharing the photo. That's really cool.
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RS,

You might want to do a little more research on this issue.

I'm going on TV tonight to present material I have found. I have been researching this since chernobyl, and more intensively for the last week.

There is so much money to be made in the nuclear industry that statements made by the EPA should not be taken at face value.

Please read the report linked to above (or at least the conclusions at the end of major chapters). There's a lot more to it than a nice photo.

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I must be looking at outdated reports, as they seem to be only monitored up to 2011. Are there updated studies? But from what I see is the increase in I-131 in my area.
Will you divuldge the channel and time you are on at?

No wonder why I have been having the urge to dig a bunker..........
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I must be looking at outdated reports, as they seem to be only monitored up to 2011. Are there updated studies? But from what I see is the increase in I-131 in my area.
I can't speak for Washington, but I know that Oregon has stopped disclosing radiation readings. They say it's too low to matter.

But how much could it cost to maintain a web page?

Here is an interesting graphic from CDC (Center for Disease Control)...


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Tonight @ 7pm, Comcast channel 11, local cable. I've been doing this for 21 years.

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No wonder why I have been having the urge to dig a bunker..........
You'd be safer moving to the southern hemisphere... much more fun than living in a hole.

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A/C, you should go yell at whoever put together that map. The figures there include deaths from car crashes, tuberculosis, and lung cancer, not just radiation-related deaths. Terrible garbage science like this is a setback to the state of rational discourse. Yes, I'm actually offended by that graphic.

I've got a link to the live radiation data that The Man is trying to keep quiet: Monitoring Results from Portland, OR | RadNet | US EPA

I've studied humans long enough to know that the urge to dig a bunker comes first, and information about radiation comes afterward. I can show you that the data doesn't support your conclusion, but I really can't change your mind about the bunker. Well, at least we can exchange tips about where and how to build efficient outbuildings, and how to plant a garden that will keep you well fed throughout the year.
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but I really can't change your mind about the bunker. Well, at least we can exchange tips about where and how to build efficient outbuildings, and how to plant a garden that will keep you well fed throughout the year.
I said that with a smile on my face, but it has been on my mind. With the threat of nuclear bomb makings and enemies of the US.......... it gets me thinking.

So how can you grow veggies in the bunker?

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